eBay: Letter from FLW to Marilyn Monroe & Arthur Miller

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:19 am

Marilyn Monroe Frank Lloyd Wright Typed & Signed Letter

David

PrairieMod · Post by **PrairieMod** » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:03 am

I'm almost 100% certain this is a fake

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:59 pm

Again with the identical signature!!

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:29 pm

Two previous threads, each last added to in late August of last year, carried similar letters with similar attributes offered on eBay. I have failed to record these, it seems, and most of the eBay pages are no longer available.

Did anyone here make scans or screen grabs of those items ? A similarity in the signature, down to the blue ink or ballpoint used by whoever created them, was evident. I had hoped, now, to be able to compare all of the samples we had from these suspect items of correspondence.

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SDR · Post by **SDR** » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:05 pm

Here's what we do have:

http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewtopic.php?t=12736

and

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 pm

TWO - Frank Lloyd Wright- Signed Bank Checks from 1952

Frank Lloyd Wright Signed Letter to Arthur Heurtley Son & Fam Chicago Aug. 1949

Frank Lloyd Wright Signed Check Feb. 1951 Taliesin Spring Green - Conn Property

Frank Lloyd Wright ~ An Autobiography ~ SIGNED / AUTOGRAPHED First Edition Book

1953 Frank Lloyd Wright Signed Check To "Arizona Biltmore Hotel" Nice!!

Frank Lloyd Wright Signed Check Dec. 1951 Taliesin Spring Green - Concrete Mill

Frank Lloyd Wright Signed Letter of Appreciation for Donation & Services - 1956

1950 FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT FARMERS STATE BANK CHECK HAND WRITTEN AND SIGNED No 1431

1959 Frank Lloyd Wright Boldly Signed $2.00 Bill Nice!!

SIGNED FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT American Architecture 1955 1st Ed Signature Autograph

SIGNED Frank Lloyd Wright A Testament first edition hand-annotated

FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT - AUTOGRAPHED SIGNED CHECK 11/17/1947

David

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:35 pm

Thanks, David---very helpful indeed . . .

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DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:15 pm

1941 Frank Lloyd Wright "Twice" Signed Arizona Highways Pauson House Article

1959 Frank Lloyd Wright Hand Typed & Signed Letter To Norman Lykes Regarding

David

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:18 am

1950 FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT FARMERS STATE BANK CHECK HAND WRITTEN AND SIGNED

David

DavidC · Post by **DavidC** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:54 am

FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT HANDTYPED & SIGNED LETTER TO ARCHIE TEATER W/COA & PROVENANCE

David

Roderick Grant · Post by **Roderick Grant** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:26 pm

eBay seems to have not standards of credibility at all.

HenryWhiting · Post by **HenryWhiting** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:40 pm

The Frank Lloyd Wright letter to Archie Teater is unquestionably a fake. The address used in this 1956 "letter" is: Archie Teater, 583 River Road, Bliss, Idaho, USA. This is the current address. In 1956 the road was known as Highway 30. When I bought Teater's Knoll in 1982, the road was known as Old Highway 30 as a bypass had been built. Only in the early 1990's was the name changed to River Road and only then did we get street addresses.

Definitely a FAKE.

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:17 pm

Thanks much, Henry. Some of us have considered a number of these cards and letters to be forgeries, but I for one have done little to seek facts that would prove it so. You've contributed a piece of hard evidence.

I've wondered what to do about fakes like these, besides calling attention to them here. It's a pity to see the name Frank Lloyd Wright taken in vain in this manner. What would you do ?

http://wrightchat.savewright.org/viewtopic.php?t=11517

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HenryWhiting · Post by **HenryWhiting** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:44 pm

I have contacted Ebay and alerted them to the fraud of this letter. Perhaps others, who have concrete knowledge of other fraudulent items, letters, drawings, etc. can do so as well. I suspect it will always be an ongoing problem.

SDR · Post by **SDR** » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:18 pm

Very good. What I find astounding is that the seller has the gall to provide a "certificate of authenticity" for the item---in the form of a note which does not definitely and unmistakably
refer to the particular document it purports to guarantee; it cites only "Frank Lloyd Wright on 1956 letter"---an oddly worded and vague description.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nScAAOSw ... -l1600.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANK-LLOYD-WR ... SwN4BeMj~M

Not only is the signature inauthentic, the entire document is a fabrication, dating according the Henry Whiting's evidence no earlier than the 1990s.

The maker has either found a cache of unused Taliesin stationery or has created sheets to appear as such, has used an old typewriter to produce a
message, has distressed and aged the paper (by folding), and has created accompanying matter that attempts an impression of provenance.

Why is the (nick)name of a living Taliesin Fellow included in the backstory of this supposedly genuine letter ?

https://franklloydwright.org/frank-lloy ... test-work/

https://www.swaback.com/company/vernon-d-swaback.html

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