For sale: House by William Patrick - La Honda, CA

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DavidC
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For sale: House by William Patrick - La Honda, CA

Post by DavidC »

According to John Geiger's apprentice list, William Patrick arrived at Taliesin on May 15th, 1948:

Country Estate - 20 acres with over 6400 square foot home and Barn in La Honda, CA 94020 - [7:28]


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Post by KevinW »

One of those things that looks really cool on the drawn floor and roof plan sheets..
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Post by SDR »

A favorite roof framing plan:


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Post by Tom »

Can't remember ever seeing this framing plan before.
Have not studied it closely.
But are there two roof levels over the kitchen?
Or ... that middle plan is some type of flat dropped ceiling?
I don't know the intricacies of Hanna well.
SDR: where is this from?

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Post by SDR »

I think this showed up on an online auction. The consistency of the diagonal placement of rafters, faithfully if not economically respecting the building unit, makes such a lovely pattern; one thinks of leaves, or insect wings . . .

Yes, there is a "flying roof" above the center of the plan. A latter-day section drawing found in the Hannas' book is the only image I have of that detail:

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Post by SDR »

The note "2 2x16s trussed with #2 wire" refers to an intervention begged of the architect during construction; the episode is detailed in the Hanna book.


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Perhaps the reason that the composite beam didn't deflect is that its members were increased from 2x10s to 2x16s ?

Or it may be that the beam in question was not the one shown in the section drawing. Note that Wright assumes that fixed sash would carry
part of the weight. I suppose that it could, if properly shimmed; the stiles are slender posts in a pinch ? "Heavy telegraph wire" and 1 3/4" pipe . . .

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Post by Tom »

Thanks
Appreciate this.
Incredible house.

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Post by SDR »

Wright's note calls for the wire to be "wound and soldered" at each end. My question would be, how to tension the wire while, or after, winding it around the pipes
and (presumably) twisting and soldering it to itself. One method of tensioning the wire (he proposes crowning the beam upward by 3/4" at center !) might be to pull
it upward at the center and pin it there, making the wire into a flat W.

His truss really lifts the beam only at the points where it passes beneath the two mid-span pipes. Perhaps those pipes should be much nearer the center ? Then
tensioning would take place as suggested, but at the quarter points of the span . . .

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