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eBay: FLW's personal wooden level

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:04 am
by DavidC

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:27 am
by Tom
Did you see the framing plan to Lloyd Lewis next to this item?
again - carport framing kinda dramatic.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:29 pm
by Tom
Never mind
DRN already posted a link to it in earlier thread.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:28 pm
by SDR
Hint: When possible, post links to referenced threads, so readers can follow the logic---or illogic---of the discussion ?

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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:40 pm
by Tom
Yep - makes good sense

BTW - check this link out: NW elevation drawing of Price Tower.
Anything seem unusual in this drawing?
I don't know what to make of the left hand side of the tower -
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https://www.wright20.com/auctions/2019/ ... ry-art/416

According to the plan that comes with these drawings it looks like they
might by flying cantilevered ramps of some sort.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:58 pm
by Rood
Tom wrote:Yep - makes good sense

BTW - check this link out: NW elevation drawing of Price Tower.
Anything seem unusual in this drawing?
I don't know what to make of the left hand side of the tower -
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etc:
https://www.wright20.com/auctions/2019/ ... ry-art/416

According to the plan that comes with these drawings it looks like they
might by flying cantilevered ramps of some sort.

Your flying ramps are fire-escape stairways. Having declined to take an elevator down to ground level, when visiting the building ... we walked down, enjoying the scenery on the way.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:02 pm
by Tom
But look at the drawing.
That is not what was built.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:38 pm
by SDR
I've never seen this elevation drawing, I believe:

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The pointed light-colored elements at left are seen in photos like this matching 1956 shot by Joe Price himself, published in Taschen:

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and in many others---and the stair clearly shows in this plan of the seventeenth floor, top of drawing:

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But nowhere can I find another elevation drawing showing that those pointed parapets are in fact canted---in elevation . . .

Rood---what did you see, up close ?

S

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:45 pm
by Tom
https://www.wright20.com/auctions/2019/ ... ry-art/414

https://www.wright20.com/auctions/2019/ ... ry-art/413


They're ramps. didn't realize this before but you can enlarge these drawings by a factor of 2.
The ramps are clearly labeled as such and in the NW elevation they appear open to the air.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:29 am
by SDR
Okay . . . well, the enlargement will have to be your secret---I can't figure it out. But I see the ramp in both plans. However, this isn't what was built, is it; the stairs shown in the
Monograph plan are presumably the replacement.

If you can enlarge those colored plans, copy them for posterity; I haven't seen that version of the design elsewhere.


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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 7:13 am
by Tom
You just click on the image.
Im on a Mac, when my cursor hovers over the image
a magnifying glass with a plus sign appears.
It lets me enlarge 2 times.
It's like the Visions of Wright site.
But I did copy them and will send to you.
I've never seen this version of the project either.
Pretty cool.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:23 am
by Tom
So in the 1956 shot by Joe Price the "fins" running down the left side of the Tower are stair landings to the stairs.
The ones Rood walked down.
Not realized this before but they are open to the air.
Literally a "fire escape" like Rood said.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:55 pm
by Roderick Grant
Notice on the drawing that the ramps at the top end are scribbled out, as if FLW was not satisfied. He then altered the entire system to what is shown in plan, with those angled steps that are a bit awkward to use.

There is one photo of the interior of the stairs in FLW's "The Story of the Tower" on page 132, which is the only such photo I have ever found.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:49 pm
by SDR
I am having trouble processing images today, for some reason. But I went looking for elevation drawings of the tower, and found some HABS elevations here:

https://www.amazon.com/Price-Tower-Draw ... 1926517466

Sure enough, the stair parapets as built are canted, not level---a fact difficult to appreciate from the ground, considering the plan geometries of the structure.

S

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:13 pm
by Roderick Grant
The underside of the landings that protrude out from the block of the building are slightly canted, but the landings are dead flat.