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and then there is Saudi Arabia, not the kind of governmental organization we
want over here and yet what administration has not been intimately involved
with Saudi for the past 50 odd years, buying their oil, selling them weapons, and doing their bidding in the Middle East.

and consider the role and ramifications the Clinton Admin. played in eviscerating the public wealth of Russia by backing Yeltsin.

The speech JFK gave at A.U. in 63 has some outdated parts, but the core message of a new perspective on Russia seems valid still.

Got a letter in the mail today from a Democratic organization.
They sent me a free sticker for my car: "Unite and Fight" in red over a
black and white picture of Donald Trump.
It's lost on me because I just don't think Trump is the problem.
...although I do think he should be impeached solely on the grounds of his bad taste.

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Agreed about Saudi Arabia.

But I'm not sure they have been attacking by directly messing with our elections. Maybe they don't have to, because no administration dares to ever challenge them.

Russia might not have a middle class, but free health care is guaranteed. Due to the financial crisis since 2014, staffing has been a problem and wait times have increased.

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My sister and brother in law came in town today.
At dinner found out my brother in law firmly believes that Russian Oligs have been financing Trumps businesses for the last 30 years and that Trump is a puppet of Putin.
Not only that but he thinks many others in the Republican Party are in the same boat.
But he doesn't think any Democrats are.
It was a struggle but due to my early immersion in the power of sheer Southern "gentility" I was able to refrain from laughing out loud.

It's going to be a long four years.

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Especially his bad taste.

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You're right, Tom, we have been in bed with Saudi Arabia for a long time, but not 50 years. It was FDR who negotiated a deal with the royal family in the 30s, tying us in with that despicable regime (which recently imprisoned a woman for appearing in public wearing a mini skirt) ever since, but ensuring the US got all the oil we wanted.

Peter! Make up your mind! Are you pro-Russia or anti-? What does their verkakte health system have to do with anything? They have been a totalitarian Socialist state for 100 years, the last 25 only marginally less totalitarian. Obviously they don't have a free-market healthcare system. But I wouldn't want it transported to this country. As to the meeting with Jr., there's still a lot of conflicting information about that, with the Russian lawyer denying that she was connected to the Kremlin, and that she had anything to say about Clinton. Since nothing came of it, there's nothing to come of the inevitable hand-wringing and muslin-chewing it is bound to cause Schumer & Co.

Tom, do you suppose your Dem brother-in-law is one of the 25% who believe the sun revolves around the Earth? I agree with you again: Trump is not the problem. His sin is only cosmetic. It's all of Washington. Trump was right, it is a swamp, and the Dems are trying relentlessly to swallow up Trump.

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RG - Did the FDR Admin start the Saudi Connection during the War or before?

Peter - Thanks for the link. ... and Fineman's no lefty ideologue.

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1945:

https://youtu.be/9sqPDdk5XCg

Drama of the day: Spicer out, Scaramucci in:

Workin' it:

https://youtu.be/iKKSQqzsidE

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Whatever ideology Fineman follows, his article is just stating, in hyperbolic, b*tchy, leftist terms, that the Conservatives are doing what they are capable of doing while in power, just as the left did during Obama's term to advance their agenda. Kagan and Sotomayor are two relatively young jurists who march in lockstep (behind elderly Ginsberg and Breyer) with the leftist dogma, guaranteeing a solid 4 at all times, while the Conservatives on the court cannot always count on Roberts to vote with them. During the time when there were only 8 members on the court, the left could count on stopping anything they disliked cold, since a tie would result in no change. Meanwhile Gorsuch is an open question. It is often that jurists who appear to be very Conservative before ascending to the SCOTUS move to the left, as Roberts and Kennedy (and in her day, O'Conner). Lefties like Douglas never budge.

ACA wouldn't have had a chance if the right had had any power at the time, and if Obama's idea of bipartisanship was other than Republican capitulation. So to imply that this administration is anything more that payback, is a stretch.

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" He made the boast during an Iowa rally: "My people are so smart. And you know what else they say about my people, the polls? They say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's like incredible."


Public Policy Polling put that claim to the test, and it mostly held up. Forty-five percent of Trump voters said they would approve of the president shooting someone on Fifth Avenue, while just 29 percent disapproved. Twenty-six percent, somehow, were unsure about their thoughts about whether it would be OK for Trump to shoot a random person on the street. "

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek ... %3Famp%3D1

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Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, perhaps, but not Dubuque.

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So Trump is contemplating uttering the words (possibly for the first time in his life?), "Pardon me..."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/p ... hone-share

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Conservative thinker Charles Krauthammer sees that it is reasonable to follow the money:

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/ ... ller%3Famp

Meanwhile, showing unadulterated nepotism, DT defends the multiple lies of his own family, while throwing his most loyal supporter, the "beleaguered" attorney general under the bus.

Mr. Kushner refused to testify under oath. He's no fool...

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It's always reasonable to "follow the money," but considering how long this saga has been going on, it would seem likely, if there is so much as a nickel to be found, to have turned up by now. Either there is no there there, or the capabilities of American tech to ferret out the malignant efforts of the Ruskies is inadequate.

The "beleaguered" comment was in reference to the unending nettling of Sessions by the likes of my dear representative, Adam Schiff. "With friends like these...."

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"Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs." DJT- 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 6f28033169

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